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May as well start this forum out with some controversy.
Whaddya think?
It's either Alien Mike or Bearings, right?
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I dont like the rule.
What if someone who normally doesn't have great games just "shows up" one game and can net 4 goals...is that bad?
I think Alien Joe is hurt most since we'll have to hold Topliff back.
Sad.
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There's merit to your argument. A quick amendment to the rule may fix your concern.
Hat trick rule - Any B level player can only score 3 goals. A fourth intentional goal is a 2:00 minor, a game misconduct, and a season suspension, with a $100.00 fine payable to MISF.
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I agree. Last season, Stephanie got a hat trick in a game. She doesn't have a blazing shot, but she knows to hang out in front of the goal. It was only her second season on skates, but with this rule, she would almost be penalized for being in the right place at the right time.
However, on the flip side, last week's Bearings vs. Mike game had Brad Blickley scoring 3. It was nice for him to drop back and play D and allow someone else to skate up.
I like the modified rule of B players being limited to a hat trick, maybe even 2 goals to encourage more development for the C players (who the league is for anyway). A good B player on a team can completely change the outcome of a game with a few quick goals. However, I don't think Tim really cares about the skill level of players so wouldn't really know who is B level and who is C level.
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If players are "that good" where the number of goals they score needs to be limited to three, than they should be playing in B league. Otherwise just get rid of the rule. Bickley beat Alien Mike last week but it's no fun to play him when you know he has to pass because he already has 3 goals. Reminded me of like "T-Ball" or something.
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I dislike the rule too. But we did have a game where Josh scored 7 goals last season. That being said, I've been involved in a few beatdowns lately (on the losing end), and honestly it's WORSE when the other team plays down to your level. To me it feels like mockery kinda. I'm with the rest of you, if a player isn't at the right level for C league, then he shouldn't be playing C league. Good hard competition is what it's all about.
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Discussion forums - nice!
I'm pretty indifferent on the 3-goal rule, but while we're at it how about the new icing rule (only from behind your own blue line rather than from behind center). I can't figure out what the intent of that would be, other than to promote cherry-picking.
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BMac wrote:Discussion forums - nice!
I'm pretty indifferent on the 3-goal rule, but while we're at it how about the new icing rule (only from behind your own blue line rather than from behind center). I can't figure out what the intent of that would be, other than to promote cherry-picking. Yea, there is no reason for the new icing rule. It is going to get someone hurt because the puck is going to get dumped and players are going to chase it into the corners and get injured. Cherry picking wasn't terrible last season, but now, this is going to promote it. What was so bad with our old icing rule?
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I would guess the intent of the new rule for icing is to decrease icing due to missed passes.
Players should not skate into corners out of control, or out of control into somone's back. Players remebering their skating ability should keep them from injury.
This is C league there will be no college schollarships or NHL contracts handed out at the end of the game.
I agree some of the rules are weird, but the icing one is not the worst.
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That would encourage lazy play then. Why not have normal icing rules and make people more precise passers? And true, players shouldn't skate into corners out of control, but this rule encourages more skating for the puck in the corners. This could result in injuries happening regardless of their skating ability.
True, there are no contracts on the line, but it is still a competitive league. Personally, I see no reason for the change to the icing rule, especially since now we are supposed to have 2 refs per game.
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Just wanted to chime in on the B league C league player debate. True, there are B level players in the league, and in some cases they take over games, which should not happen. In my opinion, a B level player, if playing the right way can help the development of some of the C level players with good passing, positioning, chatter, and advice. I personally like the hat trick rule.
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The icing rules are great when you have a 1 goal lead and there's a couple minutes on the clock. Get to blue line and dump it. No whistle.
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gr8dane wrote:Just wanted to chime in on the B league C league player debate. True, there are B level players in the league, and in some cases they take over games, which should not happen. In my opinion, a B level player, if playing the right way can help the development of some of the C level players with good passing, positioning, chatter, and advice. I personally like the hat trick rule. You like the hat trick rule..cuz you'll never see one...so no big deal for you. Guys like me that are superstars in the league are held back and I can't let the floodgates loose. I say we vote to have a 13 goal rule...because seriously, if you score more than 13 goals than you are too good for this league...or Shane is in net.
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As of last week, I noticed you have a hard time getting it on net, let along scoring 13 goals. Trying to go top shelf all the time like your cousin, isn't your strong suit. Just worry about preventing goals. That is what you are good at.
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gr8dane wrote:As of last week, I noticed you have a hard time getting it on net, let along scoring 13 goals. Trying to go top shelf all the time like your cousin, isn't your strong suit. Just worry about preventing goals. That is what you are good at. ouch. that hurts.
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I didn't know about any of these rules. I think the three-goal rule suits me fine -- I won't score three goals all season the way I've been playing lately. The new icing rule is stupid. Hockey is hockey, next you'll be telling me offsides is only if a B-league player crosses the blue line before the puck. Is there a new website with up-to-date stats and schedules? I only see the game schedule through tomorrow on the MISF site -- how do I know what time the rest of our games are?
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CapsFan wrote:Is there a new website with up-to-date stats and schedules? I only see the game schedule through tomorrow on the MISF site -- how do I know what time the rest of our games are? Yea, www.DMAHC.com is the rink's website for the leagues. They have all of the upcoming games on there. They were changing the schedule so much at the beginning of the season that I didn't want to put more than 5 weeks up because of the work involved if they changed it again. I don't know if I will keep standings updated or not on my site this season. Tim seems to not want me to despite me offering to do so. Next season, if Joe is back in charge, I hope he would want me to take the stats back over. We'll see though.
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I initially was against the 3 goal rule, but I'm starting to like it. When I saw the roster I wondered where our points would come from. I've decided they need to come from me. It's motivating me to work harder to someday register some points, since apparently feeding the puck to Mike to score on a breakaway doesn't count as an assist. I'm still not fond of getting a stick across my back because someone on the other team has scored his 3 goals and doesn't care if he gets sent to the penalty box, however.
As far as the icing goes, is it because of that rule change or that I moved up to C that there are a lot fewer whistles? I'm finding that I have to pay a lot more attention to my changes so I don't get stuck on the ice too long. Other than that it doesn't seem to make a huge difference either way, but I'd rather have it be like "real" hockey.
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THansenite wrote:That would encourage lazy play then. Why not have normal icing rules and make people more precise passers? And true, players shouldn't skate into corners out of control, but this rule encourages more skating for the puck in the corners. This could result in injuries happening regardless of their skating ability.
True, there are no contracts on the line, but it is still a competitive league. Personally, I see no reason for the change to the icing rule, especially since now we are supposed to have 2 refs per game. So agian, The reason for the rule is to save time and let the game keep flowing. with a running clock if the game is stopped for faceoffs all of the time we have less time to play. The rule is there since we are not good passers yet., and too keep the game enjoyable. If you want a more competitive league move up to B or A. As far as injuries, I don't see how the rule increases your chance for injury. If you wanted icing like "real" hockey then we should have to touch up the puck and skate for it. So whistling it dead when it crosses the line is not like real hockey but makes it so we don't have to charge after a puck every time.
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BotWizo wrote:THansenite wrote:That would encourage lazy play then. Why not have normal icing rules and make people more precise passers? And true, players shouldn't skate into corners out of control, but this rule encourages more skating for the puck in the corners. This could result in injuries happening regardless of their skating ability.
True, there are no contracts on the line, but it is still a competitive league. Personally, I see no reason for the change to the icing rule, especially since now we are supposed to have 2 refs per game. So agian, The reason for the rule is to save time and let the game keep flowing. with a running clock if the game is stopped for faceoffs all of the time we have less time to play. The rule is there since we are not good passers yet., and too keep the game enjoyable. If you want a more competitive league move up to B or A. As far as injuries, I don't see how the rule increases your chance for injury. If you wanted icing like "real" hockey then we should have to touch up the puck and skate for it. So whistling it dead when it crosses the line is not like real hockey but makes it so we don't have to charge after a puck every time. Just to show the flipside... If I'm Dylo on Alien Mike, I cross my blue line, "ice" the puck and outrace everyone because I'm the fastest skater and have more opportunities for scoring chances. The more traditional off sides eliminates some of that and "slows" down the faster skaters a bit. Just looking at it from both sides.
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